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Pimpin Curly:

Specs look right. Let’s see if HTCs futur phones (Star & SuperStar) will have MultiTouch screens.

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aleis Reply:
May 12th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

that would be great… but im hoping the superstar will have:

1. Nvidia tegra!
2. 6.5 upgradeable to 7!
..3…CAPACITIVE SCREEN!
dont fell me HTC!

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lennard Reply:
May 12th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

capacitive touch screens, I really don’t see the big deal….I live in NYC and winters can be real brutal where taking out your hands out your gloves can feel like a thousand needles pocking you all at the same time. I don’t want to have to take out my hands out my gloves everytime I want to touch something on my phone’s screen….I dread that day in an NYC winter…..

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Martin Schmidler Reply:
May 12th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

exactly. Todays resistive screens are nearly as responsive as capacitive. Plus, with the new technology shown at the MWC a few weeks ago, they get multitouch support as well! So you have all-in-one: stylus, multi-touch and sensitivity!

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ishy:

Display: WVGA (800×480) or FWVGA (854×480) 3.5” or greater diagonal

i find that hard to believe. a required 3.5+ screen?

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lennard Reply:
May 12th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

um……I don’t know if you know this, but higher resolution doesn’t always equate to a larger screen. the thouch pro has a 2.8″ screen but packs a 480×640 resolution. 3.2″ to 3.6″ will become the norm pretty soon. I welcome the larger screen and res. anyday. I have gotten used to the screen size of my HTC advantage and for me to go to anything smaller than 3.5″ would probably put in a withdrawal state.

I can’t use my girl’s iphone because……there’s not much to do on it. the pre looks prety damn nice, but it seems thats as far as it goes. I’m mostly on the road with my laptop and use my phone to tether over WiFi for internet access, this one feature can make or break a device for me. but this feature only seems to be on the windows mobile plaform (all windows mobile with WiFi is able to do this).

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ishy Reply:
May 12th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

um..i’m not sure if you just skipped over the part where it says 3.5inch or larger or not, but…

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lennard Reply:
May 12th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

yes I did, I looked at the res. and say “good, this is nice, really ncie” because I know I will be seeing devices with 4″ with 800×480 res. which is really the size I’m looking for….an inch off the 5 i’m used to is not bad. the fact is my friend, 3.5″ is really not that big. and over the years we’ve seen many companys crimp on the required specs…

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ishy Reply:
May 12th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

my point is that its strange to expect every windows mobile phone to be the same size as the iphone. screen resoultion has nothing to do with the point i’m trying to make

lennard:

if these specs are right then windows mobile 7 be real juicy…..this plus the zune integration, yes, yes yes….then i could walk around with millions of songs technically on my phone….my zune pass will be happy. if microsoft could get the phone companies to subsidze zune then this would be a really nice move.

I haven’t seen a substantial amount of info on wm7 but from what I’ve seen I’m liking it. the windows mobile platform has been high on features but the UI plus hardware acceleration has been lacking. I thik microsot’s idea has always been leave to the OEMs or 3rd party to improve the UI and add acceleration if need be, but this has proved to be a bad move because it brings with it inconsistencies to the plaform. With wm7 it seems they’re going to take back development in most of the areas…OS updates will be done through microsoft and not through the OEMs (about time), hardware acceleration: drivers will be provided through microsoft so oems don’t have to worry about writing drivers.

improved UI is always welcomed by me. plus the neon blue (I love neon blue) . I wonder how long it will be before we actually see a device with wm7 on it. however, I know xda and ppcgeeks should have the beta way before the device ships.

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Martin Schmidler Reply:
May 12th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

neon blue…I fell in love as well, looooong ago

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NuShrike Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

Good response to ODMs such as HTC shipping crap devices without drivers and MS couldn’t do anything about it.

Unifying the platform, instead of the fragmented wasteland it is now, can only be good. If it’s really a unified sensor API, that would be great too!

And, I hope it’s not only .NET interfaces, because that could be slow, and prevents the native coders from producing really spectacular apps.

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ishy:

duh..this is probably referring to phones capable of playing those 3D xbox games we heard the zune hd playing

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nuke1:

3.6″ would, I think, be my ideal size.

And yes, if the above is true, then MS fever is about to kick off all over again.

Really, can anyone imagine what 6.5 requires? The two OSs will be a world apart. 6.5, works on a 200Mhz OMAP processor on a QVGA device with little else necessary. Lol.

Good days for MS is this is true. I think the only requirement that is a bit too stringent is the 3.5 as a minimum. I think possibly 3.2 should be permitted, because some people simply MUST have small compact phones. But such phones should not be encouraged by MS.

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PETER:

Sounds like WM7 & Iphone will be neck to neck with specs

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MikeWard1701:

These specs look great!

Finally MS is taking things seriously and reining in the manufacturers who have played fast and loose with hardware, which have resulted in slow devices and bad PR for Windows Mobile.

I just hope these baseline specs are enough to run Windows Phone 7 properly when it finally ships, and keep it running smooth years down the line.

Slightly off topic, it seems Windows Phone 7 is going the opposite way to its desktop couterpart. Windows 7 running better on old/low-spec PCs than Vista or XP. Or maybe they’re just trying to bring smartphone specs up into the netbook region (processor wise atleast).

Could Windows Phone 7 actually turn out to be more like desktop Windows 7 than we can imagine?

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lennard Reply:
May 12th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

I don’t think it will turn out more like windows 7 desktop, but I know it will be able to be customized to look and feel like it….just like windows mobile 5/6/6.5 is right now.

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Soul_Est:

power requirements will be too high to allow the phone to run for long. proper power management better be in place.

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MoB:

Insane… it is insane. There is not a word about battery, but with all those bells and whistles, what do you expect? Also, what about the price tag? Sell a car, buy a WinMo phone? Huh… And what most worries me – stability issues. Treo750/WM5 was excellent, Treo750/WM6 (official) was not so excellent, HTC Touch Diamond with WM6.1 is terrible. If I extrapolate this curve, WM6.5 are going to be very unstable.

Nice specs, but hardware is not the only thing which matters, mark my words…

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ishy Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Battery: Sufficient to meet Days of Use LTK requirements.

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nuke1 Reply:
May 13th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

That is possibly one of THE most ridiculous opinions I’ve ever heard of in the world of phones.

Mark my words: December 2012 we’re all going to DIIIIEEE. That’s pretty much what your post sounded like. Are those the only phones you’ve ever seen/heard of?

So, would you like a slice of cheese with that whine?

‘And what most worries me – stability issues. Treo750/WM5 was excellent, Treo750/WM6 (official) was not so excellent, HTC Touch Diamond with WM6.1 is terrible. If I extrapolate this curve, WM6.5 are going to be very unstable.’

With your opinions, we would all have been tripping over each other, heads over heels in the Dark Ages. Change is baaa- someone change the record already. We’ve seen plenty of these people.

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MoB Reply:
May 14th, 2009 at 5:10 am

I am happy to make you smile Although I don’t see anything ridiculous on degrading performance and stability of WM with every new version… and what I basically wanted to say was that not only hardware is important but also OS. Look at iPhone – OS contains much less features than WM but sells very well. Why? It is rock solid. It allows you to do less than you can do with WM but if it allows you something, you can bet it works! And this is not something you can say about WM. Big dot. Regardless of the screen resolution or snappy processor.

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11:11 phenomenon:

Will current and future phones that run WM6 be upgradeable to WM7? I imagine not, since WM7 will have lots of extra features like accelerometers, multitouch, etc

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