HTC – "There is no-one more committed to Windows Mobile than HTC"
HTC has had to say this over and over again, but once again we have an HTC executive, this time Jason Mackenzie, VP for HTC Americas, making it very clear in this video that HTC dominates the Windows Mobile market, and are not planning to give up that market any time soon.
I do take issue a bit with his statement that HTC produced 80% of all Windows Mobile devices. While this may be true over the life time of Windows Mobile, it does give a distorted view of the current situation, where HTC’s share is much smaller, at around 50-60%, and HTC faces strong Windows Mobile competition from the likes of Samsung with its successful Omnia range, and of course from a range of smaller players.
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The cynic in me is going to say 'Why are you saying this now, after you have released a bunch of android handsets? How much are MS paying you to remain faithful to them?'.
The customer in me is going to say 'Well screw you, my next phone will be an SE X3/X10/Infinity!'
[this is in reference to yesterdays comments too, where HTC's chief stated there wouldn't be an HD2-type android]
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well it's nice to see someone not trying to bite the hand that has fed him for many years. I've heard many say HTC should jump ship and only do android phones, which I think would be a big mistake because HTC makes their bread and butter by selling windows mobile devices. I hate it when people are naive in their fanboyish judgments…..if 80% of my income is coming from selling a certain product why in hell should I stop selling that product in favor of another that I'm not even making 10% of my income from?
biting the hand that fed you for almost all your life or not paying propper homage is like a slap in the face to a care giver who treated you like his own son and made sure you flourished into what you are today. where is your loyalty?
also Admin, there was an article done at information week since february of 2009 that also stated that HTC sells about 80% of all windows mobile phone, therefore if anyone hold up their windows mobile phone, there should be about a 70% chance that it was made my HTC. http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives...
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wmpoweruser Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Re the 70-80%, the numbers do not make sense these days, because we know how many phones HTC sold last year (12 million) and we know how many WM phones were sold last year (20 million) so it can’t really be 80% these days.
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Lennard Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
this is how it looked at it, Microsoft said they sold over 50 million windows mobile phones at WMC this year and HTC announced that they sold 40 million around the same time, that leaves 10 million for the rest of the ODMs to fight over who sold more. you're thinking about about only last year, but in the video he said "over 80% SKUs that has every shipped globaly was manufacturd by HTC". therefore, it's not about how many was shipped this year or last year, it's how many shipped overall. and that's where the 80% comes in
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admin Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Exactly. It tells us more about the past then the present. We can imagine it as a graph, with HTC selling 100% of devices originally, and this number slowly dipping to its current amount now, which I believe to be about 60%. Still the vast majority, but far from the whole market.
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Lennard Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
so they have around 80% of the overall market and 60% of the current market….that sounds about right. then instead of the 70% percent chance that your windows mobile phone is made by HTC, it is 60%. I can say 80% of the windows mobile phones I've owned were made by HTC.
l3v5y Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
100% of the Windows Mobile phones I've owned were HTC!
l3v5y Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
MS and HTC are very close partners, a lot of the HTC stuff is developed with Microsoft. Android is also something that I'd guess sells in low volume, whereas WM sells to enterprise customers who by 100-1000s of devices at a time…
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maybe it's about people currently using HTC devices? not everyone is going to buy a new phone every year.
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Looking at the bright side, this makes me beleive winmo 7 is really going to be what we all want because HTC thinks so and is thus holding on to microsoft
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l3v5y Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
WM6.X is still one of the most popular business OS (as far as I know), and HTC do have a corporate slant (not the TyTN,TyTN2,Touch Pro, Touch Pro2) . My guess is they make a lot more money from that than they do from selling the odd "consumer" device, so it makes sense to keep hold of your core business.
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daguila Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 12:51 am
i am with you on this one. i was thinking the same exact thing.
I belive HTC already saw or played with a beta of WM7 and they like what they saw which is why they wont' jump ship.
I also think that WM7 is thinking far beyond their appeal to eye candy. They are probably focusing on having all their phones integrate with WMC, XBOX, ZUNE, SURFACE,FACEBOOK,WINDOWS LIVE. HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE.
I recently watched an ad about windows surface and the intergration with it looks very very promising.
Maybe with in the next 5 years other business will adopt surface and microsoft will already have in place a way for you to pay with your cellphone, order and who knows maybe even view your cellphone display on the screen.
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Winmo 7..please come soon
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Ironic for those that said never again for the repeated tricks HTC has pulled so far. 80% holding back the WM market with last-gen tech they’ll ride into the grave, so far.
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patiently waiting Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
I'm new to HTC (diamond being the first one ive owned), but what kind of tricks have HTC pulled? It's nothing compare to Apple withholding MMS and video capturing, is it?
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Lennard Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
I dont' think he knows what he's talking about…..last gen tech?…..
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l3v5y Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:03 am
NuShrike is probably talking about MSM720XA based devices, and the lack of drivers which was only apparent on the Kaiser. As far as I'm concerned, my Diamond has and will do everything I want it to.
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HTC, if you are really that “committed”, then why are you offering less and less hotfixes / ROM upgrades for older Windows Mobile devices? Virtually Touch HD has the same specifications as TP2 and TD2 but not getting the Windows Mobile 6.5 update, not even TouchFlo 3D upgrade(now known as Sense)…
on the other hand, Android 2.0 will be available to all HTC Hero and not to mention that Sense UI interface was also officially available to HTC Magic.
so how “committed” you are again towards Windows Mobile?
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Foamy Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 1:05 am
It seems to me like they're trying to get a new start with the HD2. New generation of hardware for a new generation of windows mobile. They probably don't want to put the resources into supporting the older stuff. xda devs probably have something to do with this too.
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daguila Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 6:23 am
you are forgetting that HTC sells phones and it makes no sense to invest in products that have already been bought. Google doesn't sell android they make money out of your personal info…HTC doesn't make operating systems.
two different business models.
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l3v5y Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:05 am
It may well be that HTC don't have any "coming soon" android devices, and that the only way to keep the Android lot happy would be to whack out a load of updates. There are also not a huge number of changes between 1.5 and 2.0, so it's not that large a thing to upgrade it…
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