Gforfames.com reports that Huawei’s supposedly cancelled dual boot Windows phone and Android handset may have been pictured on Weibo.
The picture, which was posted on the micro-blogging network, shows a handset with Windows Phone buttons clearly running Android.
Both Google and Microsoft of course took exception to dual-booting handsets, so if this is a real device is is likely to be a bit of a unicorn.
Do our readers think these type of devices have a future? Let us know below.
While Huawei is a Windows Phone OEM they are not one of the most vociferous supporters of the platform, and in an interview with WPXbox at Mobile World Congress last month their CMO Mr. Shao Yang explained why.
WPXbox asked if they had concrete plan for new Windows Phone handset and he said:
In Windows Phone there is one problem that it has more licensing cost than Android. That increases the price of the phone by 10%. So that’s one block point of Windows. The second block is the ecosystem. The third and major block point is that Windows Phone is not so open as Android which blocks a vendor to make their own innovation. The result of the last block is that all Windows Phone looks too similar and it is hard to differentiate different brands from each other.
Of course the ecosystem is strengthening and I suspect licensing costs are falling away for all smaller OEMs but customization and differentiation remained a significant sticking point for Yang .
When Microsoft and Nokia combine together, it will be even harder to open the API. That will not make the competition fair.
The problem is the API and customization are not available equally for all. Initially all phone makers started with Windows Phone but only Nokia had exclusive access to some of the API. Now with Nokia gone into Microsoft, the problem still remains the same.
Microsoft has shown a lot of flexibility recently regarding Windows Phone. Do our readers think we will ever get to the point where Microsoft will allow “Touchwiz for Windows Phone”? Let us know below.
Just last week we reported that Huawei is planning to sell dual OS smartphones in the coming months. Today, they denied their plans saying that at this stage there are no plans to launch a dual-OS smartphone in the near future.
Last week, Shao Yang, Huawei’s Chief Marketing Officer said, “With Windows Phone, one direction for us – and one that we are now following – is dual OS. Dual OS as in Android and Windows together.”
“If it is Windows only, maybe people will not find it as easy a decision to buy the phone. If they have the Android and Windows together, you can change it as you wish and it is much easier for people to choose Windows Phone. We think the dual OS can be a new choice for the consumer. It will be on sale in the US in Q2.”
A Huawei spokeswoman has now confirmed to Fierce Wireless that the company’s plans have changed since Yang made the above comments. However, Microsoft is still a key global partner of Huawei Consumer Business Group and Huawei plans to release new Windows Phones in 2014. They said that as long as the consumers continue to demand Windows, they will continue to supply them.
Microsoft usually share a significant amount of money with OEMs for marketing Windows based PCs. And they are following the same policy for Windows Phone devices ecosystem too. It was revealed recently that Microsoft was paying marketing funds for Nokia more than what Nokia will pay for Windows Phone license to Microsoft. Similarly, Microsoft will also pay other Windows Phone OEMs for marketing the devices. Eldar Murtazin today tweeted that Microsoft is paying $1.2 billion for Samsing, $0.5 billion for Sony, $0.6 billion for Huawei and $0.3 billion for other OEMs as support for developing one Windows Phone device from each of them.
Windows phone 8 in 2014 – Samsung 1.2 bln USD, Sony 0.5 bln, Huawei 0.6 bln, others – 0.3 bln. Thats “support” from MS to develop one (1!)hs
I’m not surprised by the fact that Microsoft is paying OEMs for developing Windows Phone devices, but I doubt the amount of money Eldar said today. I don’t think Microsoft will spend nearly $2 billion for getting a single Windows Phone device from all these OEMs out in the market. Instead, Microsoft can spend that money on Nokia by significantly increasing marketing, lowering device price for consumers, etc, which I think will work more positively for Windows Phone platform.
What do you think?
Earlier this week, we reported that Microsoft-Nokia deal is in the second-phase of anti-trust investigation in China, as Chinese OEMs and regulators fear that Nokia’s patent fees for the China’s domestic handset vendors might go up after this deal gets over. Today, Bloomberg reported that local Chinese OEMs has asked regulators to make sure Microsoft’s acquisition of Nokia’s handset business doesn’t result in higher patent fees on wireless technology.
Huawei Technologies Co. and ZTE Corp.asked China’s Ministry of Commerce to set conditions on the deal making sure Microsoft doesn’t raise patent licensing fees afterward, said the people, who asked not to be identified because they weren’t authorized to speak publicly about the matter. The ministry is conducting an anti-monopoly review of the deal.
Microsoft and Nokia is expecting to close the deal in early 2014 and any delay in China due to the above issues may further push the deal closing date in 2014. I hope Chinese regulators and Nokia soon sort out the differences to clear this deal.
Bloomberg recently revealed that Microsoft is discussing allowing HTC to offer dual-boot Android handsets which can also run Windows Phone, and now Russian rumour-monger Eldar Murtazin claims this is not an isolated incident, but that Microsoft is offering the same deal to Windows Phone OEMS Samsung and Huawei also, and are also offering the same deal for Windows RT.
In fact, according to Eldar Microsoft is even offering to pay for the adaptation costs to get the OS to run well on the Android tablets, and are offering the OS for free.
An example of such as device is the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2014 Edition with Android and Windows RT on board.
If true the move is reflective is Microsoft’s weak position in mobile, and we wonder if such a system will really grow Windows and Windows Phone adoption.
Another Eldar titbit is also that Windows 9 will be a major departure from Windows 8, and will break app compatibility, unfortunately not an unknown issue with Microsoft.
If true, do our readers believe this would be a good move? Let us know below.
GSMInfo.nl reports that Huawei’s Dutch division has revealed the Netherlands will be the first European country to stock the Huawei Ascend W2.
The mid-range handset has similar specs to the Nokia Lumia 520, except for featuring a front-facing camera, 4.3 inch WVGA screen and colour-changing capacitive keys that match your accent colour.
The handset has a:
- 1.4 GHz dual-core processor with 512 MB of RAM
- 8 GB of internal memory, expandable with max. 32 GB via microSD
- 4.3 inch TFT screen with resolution of 480 x 800 pixels
- 5-megapixel camera with led Flash
- Windows Phone 8
The device should retail for around 200 euro, which is somewhat more expensive than the Nokia Lumia 520.
Do our readers see any reason to pick this handset over Nokia’s offerings? Let us know below.
Thanks Thomas for the tip.
While both HTC and Samsung had little to say about the Microsoft/Nokia deal, one of the most promising new Windows Phone OEMs, Huawei, was a little bit more forthcoming.
Speaking to the Financial Times Chen Lifang, a board member of Huawei, said their investment in Windows Phone will not be affected by the recent purchase of Nokia’s handset division by Microsoft.
Having said that, the company continues to simply dip their toe into the Windows Phone pool, and said they remain sceptical about the ability of Windows Phone to challenge the market position of Android.
For those who think Huawei is no big deal, in the same interview Chen clarified the company has no intention to purchase HTC, which I think quite firmly demonstrates how the tables have turned in the smartphone world recently.
Chen added Huawei may introduce a new brand to boost consumer awareness in a further bid to boost sales.
If there is one issue Microsoft has failed spectacularly to address it is the Other Storage bug, which results in the storage memory of Windows Phone users being slowly eroded over time by the collection of temporary files which the users are unable to delete themselves.
Nokia was as usual the first to release their own fix for the issue, meaning for users who have access to Nokia’s Storage Check app this is no longer a problem.
Now it seems Huawei is also developing their own app, according to Wp7forum.ru, who report the app will allow users to delete cached files, temporary files and application installation packages.
Unfortunately a release date for the app is not know, but given that Huawei has released smartphones with only 4GB of internal storage I am sure for their users the fix can not come soon enough.
Huawei CEO Wan Biao – Windows Phones “sales are good.”
Huawei promises to be an important Windows Phone OEM, especially in China, Russia, Africa and eventually even Europe.
Speaking to Business Insider Wan Biao, CEO of the company explained why they were supporting the OS.
“For us all the focus is on Android, but we will also try Windows. Right now, the sales are good, but it’s pretty hard to predict Windows Phone. For one OS [operating system] – Android – the consumers have spent time and their money to like it. We developed Windows 8 because we do believe some consumers will like it.”
Huawei’s first Windows Phone, the Ascend W1, has just one on sale in Russia. Winphonelive.ru reports that online store The Messenger is currently shipping out pre-orders for the handset, and will only serve new customers if there are any left over, with a second shipment expected in a week.
The device is on sale for only 8990 rubles, which is around $290, and is available in black, white and blue.
While we tend to devote most of our attention to high end Windows Phones, one of the OS’s strengths is providing a premium experience even at the low-end, and that is where sales have also been concentrated. It could very well be that handsets like the Huawei Ascend W1 could be one of the keys to Windows Phone success in 2013.
AllaboutPhones.nl seems to have managed to lay their hands on some photos of a slide deck from a Huawei presentation in which they discuss their Windows Phone product strategy.
The picture shows the company plans to have Youth handsets with the best value (presumably WP 7.8), then Gold handsets, which are balanced and value for money, Platinum handsets which features design and fashion, and Diamond high end models which were innovative and gadgets in their own right.
The last 3 handsets would all run Windows Phone 8.
The Ascend W1 is labelled as the handset which will make Windows Phone 8 accessible to the masses (much like the Nokia Lumia 620 is doing).
Huawei’s first Windows Phone 8 device Ascend W1 was announced at CES and later confirmed by carriers like O2 UK. The Ascend W1 has a 10.5mm slim body and a bright 4-inch IPS LCD 480 x 800 touchscreen with OGS Technology and is powered by theÂ Qualcomm Snapdragonâ„¢ S4 MSM8230 dual-core 1.2 GHz processor and Adreno 305 GPU. It features a low reflective IPS LCD display with full lamination technology, providing great visibility under any lighting condition. It also has a 5 megapixel autofocus camera with LED flash, and includes 4GB on-board memory, expandable to 32GB with a micro SD card.
Even though the availability for Acend W1 in China, Russia, India and some European market was confirmed as Q1 2013, we has only approx pricing. Now, Huawei has confirmed that Ascend W1 will be available for 1599.00 Yuan (approx $250 USD) making it to join the cheapest Windows Phone 8 device title along with Nokia Lumia 620.
Source: Huawei via: win8china
WPDang reports that the Huawei Ascend W1 will break new grounds for Windows Phone in China by costing only 1599 Yuan on release ($257).
The price was revealed by Huawei at a China Telecom 3G carrier exhibition In Sichuan, and makes it the cheapest Windows Phone 8 handset yet.
Huawei will be testing the market by producing 500,000 of the handsets, with the first of these hitting shelves by the end of the month.
WPDang notes that at the exhibition the Nokia Lumia 620 and HTC 8S were both being advertised at 1999 Yuan, and that the eventual price when the Ascend W1 reaches the consumer may be even lower than 1599 Yuan.
In an interview with WPDang Huawei CEO Mr. Yu Chengdong said Huawei was not trying Windows Phone as a once-off deal, but that the W1 was part of a very long-term plan.
The W1 will be distributed in China, Russia and India, and at such an aggressive price may be able to carve a place out in the Windows Phone ecosystem after all.
Read more at WPDang here.