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Nokia Saudi Arabia saying the Nokia Lumia 900 is coming to KSA in October with Windows Phone 8

Here is another tasty titbit to digest before Microsoft asks for it to be deleted.

Nokia Saudi Arabia was asked about the arrival of the Nokia Lumia 900.

They responded that the Nokia Lumia 900 will be available in October with the Windows Phone 8 update and with 100% Arabic support.

NOKIA SAUDI ARABIA @ NokiaKSA
@ IMousa7 Nokia phones will be available in Saudi Arabia to Umia in ten AD, Arab,100% God willing, system and Windows 8

Of course all God willing ;)

Of course we heard a similar story regarding the Nokia Lumia in South Africa, and of course it makes perfect sense to continue to use a relatively new handset over the Windows Phone OS update.

Appreciate the tweet while you can here, before the story changes again.

Thanks Samsam for the tip.

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LG Italy says no Windows Phone 8 upgrade for the LG Optimus 7: Update: LG apologizes for “erroneous information”

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Adding another data point to the rumour mill, in response to a question on twitter whether the LG Optimus 7, a moderately popular first generation Windows Phone handset, will get a Windows Phone 8 upgrade, LG Italy responded, saying:

Hello, no, no upgraded to Windows 8 as confirmed by Microsoft.

Of course this conversation is far from confirming anything, but it is helpful to dial back expectations with so many sources denying an upgrade will be coming.

Update: Well, that did not take long.  LG Italy has now recanted their statement, saying:

We apologize for the erroneous information. We are still investigating the possibility of upgrading the Optimus 7

Anyone get the feeling Microsoft wants to keep us in the dark?

Via Plaffo.com

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Windows Phone 8 to RTM by July?

Claiming a reliable source, WP7Forum.ru, who has leaked early Windows Phone info before, says that Windows Phone 8 or Windows phone Next will be released to OEMs in July, less than 3 months from now.

There OEMs will be able to customize it for new devices, or work on updating their current stable.

They also claim that updates are definitely on the way for current devices, saying there is almost no doubt, of course contrary to most whispers from Microsoft at the moment.

They still expect new devices will only reach the market by Q4 2012.

Read more at WP7Forum.ru here.

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Huawei rumoured to have 70 engineers on Windows Phone 8 team

WPDang is claiming the newest Windows Phone OEM, Huawei, has 70 engineers in China working on Windows Phone 8 handsets for the end of the year.

Apparently the company is working on a budget device costing 2,000 CNY (317 USD), likely modelled on an Android handset, while a high end model with a 4 inch screen is also rumoured.

Huawei is said to be working with a US team and Microsoft on these handsets.

Huawei is apparently also working on a LTE Windows 8 tablet project similar to the Huawei MediaPad 10 FHD.

Huawei is not normally associated with smartphones, but have sold 20 million smartphones last year, and aim to sell 60 million this year, making them a significant player.

Via WPSauce.com

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SkyDrive paid tiers rumoured again

Claiming unnamed sources The Verge is saying Microsoft is preparing to release a Windows 7 desktop SkyDrive app , and at the same time start supporting paid tier of the online service.

The new pricing options for SkyDrive paid storage plans are expected to be around $10, $25, or $50 per year for an extra 20GB, 50GB, or 100GB, respectively.

The most interesting element of rumour is that Microsoft will apparently drop the amount of free storage to new users to 7 GB, while existing users will continue to benefit from the old 25 GB allocation. Additionally the service will apparently involve Live Mesh-type synching missed by many.

The Verge expects the plans to be announced at The Next Web Conference on Friday April 27th at noon (CET).

Sounds like if you do not have SkyDrive yet it may be a good idea to grab an account now.

Update: It seems everyone has been downgraded to 7 GB of storage, but a free upgrade to 25 GB is still available.

Via the verge.com

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Rumour: Will today’s high end WP7 handsets become tomorrow’s low-end WP8 phones?

NASA-Apollo_thumbWe have just received an interesting (so far unsubstantiated) rumour that we felt was worth sharing.

Our tipster have apparently spoken to HTC and Nokia reps in South Africa, and have been told they will not be launching the HTC Titan or Nokia Lumia 900 handsets officially in the country until Windows Phone 8 becomes available, at which point they will come pre-loaded with the OS.  Apparently HTC is aiming for Q3 2012, while Nokia is looking at Q3-Q4 2012.

While there is of course no substance to the rumour so far, it does make pretty good sense, and has been Apple’s pattern so far over the last few years, with last year’s iPhones becoming the low-end handsets for the current year, such that even the 3 year old iPhone 3GS is still being produced. Of course all iPhones on sale run the current version of iOS, essential for a coherent software ecosystem.

An additional element is that it makes very little sense for Nokia to produce the Nokia Lumia 900, launch it in the middle of April and then take it off the market 6 months later when Apollo comes out.

Do our readers feel this rumour is realistic? Let us know below.

Thanks Calli for the tip.

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Paul Thurrott puts his credibility on the line regarding Windows Phone 8 upgrade

NASA-Apollo_thumbOn WindowsitPro Paul Thurrott has made a clear and strong claim that there will not be any Windows Phone 8 upgrade for current Windows Phone 7 handsets.

Paul gives a number of reasons, but primarily relies on an unnamed source in Microsoft from whom he has wrung the confession.

He says:

Allow me to set the record straight. No. It won’t happen. Not for the Lumia 900, and not for any other existing phone. It won’t happen partially, through an update that will deliver just some features, and it won’t happen for those who wish to pay for such an update. It simply isn’t happening. Sorry. But please don’t email me about this; I’m just the messenger.

He gives the following reasons why an upgrade did not ever make any sense, which we will deal with in turn:

First, there’s no economic imperative; Microsoft’s partners have sold very few Windows Phones, and supporting a new platform on legacy hardware would be expensive.

At WMPoweruser.com we believe around 11 million Windows Phones have been sold so far.  By the time Windows Phone 8 comes out it should be up to 15-18 million. While this is not much compared to the 200-300 million phones on other platforms, that is the totality of Microsoft’s mobile platform.  If they do not extend their new APIs to this installed base, it will immediately reduce the size of the market for the new apps to just those new handsets sold  in that quarter, leaving developers to choose whether to target the vast majority of Windows Phones, or the small segment of “advanced” devices. This is of course the essence of fragmentation, which is not just a curse word all by itself, but cause real practical issues for developers, and real advantages when avoided.

Regarding the cost of actually upgrading handsets, we would suggests Microsoft measure it against the cost of correcting the PR nightmare of not upgrading Windows Phones 7 handsets will cause. We suggest at least $500 million to $1 billion damages would be a conservative number.

Microsoft should of course remember the last time they refused to provide an upgrade, from Windows Mobile 6.5 to 7, their sales dropped from around 4 million a quarter to 0.5 million in Q4 2010.  Sales have not yet recovered to those Windows Mobile days, after Microsoft spent several billion dollars. Imagine if Microsoft did upgrade the HTC HD2 to Windows Phone 7. Instead of struggling for 5 months to 2 million sold, they would have had an instant installed base of several million Windows Phone handsets from the start, which would also have jump started marketplace.

Second, the experience would be terrible; Windows Phone 8 is based on Windows 8, not Windows Phone 7.x, and requires headier, higher-end hardware with two or more core processors.

This would seem to me to be the weakest reason.  Are we to assume Microsoft intends to abandon the low-end market, Nokia’s bread and butter? While we know Windows Phone will support dual core processors, requiring dual core processors will kill the OS as surely as not supporting dual core in the future would too. For the same reason not all Windows Phones will have HD screens, NFC or other advanced features. China and India will simply not support this.

Third, handset makers and wireless carriers would never support this upgrade; they want to sell new phones.

While we know carriers and OEMs are not eager to push out updates and upgrades, in this case we are often talking about supporting handsets sold 3-6 months earlier. Demand for an upgrade will be loud and strong, and with a larger and larger base of Windows Phone customers, OEMs and carriers both have every incentive to keep their customers happy.  In short, the same logic applied to the Mango update, yet both OEMs and carriers complied.  Why would this be any different?

And finally, wireless carriers would never, ever, ever, ever deliver this update to users. There is just no way this will ever happen. And that’s true even when you factor out that I know for a fact that this isn’t happening. Again. Sorry.

In this case Thurrott seems to be relying directly on his credibility. It is of note that Paul has been wrong in the past, most likely because his sources gave him the wrong information. Examples include carriers only being allowed to skip one update, or that the Nokia Lumia 710 was coming to Verizon, or that Tango will not be coming to US phones. When relying on others it does not pay to be so emphatic.

Of course we are not saying Paul is wrong – merely that he can be wrong, his reasons are weak, and he has been wrong in the past. 

Despite his statements, we will have to continue to wait and see.

Thanks Joe for the tip.

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More claims the Nokia Lumia range will get Windows Phone 8

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At this point we are just passing on rumours, but I am still sure many current and prospective Nokia Lumia owners will want to hear the latest one, which claims that the current Nokia Windows Phone range, including the Nokia Lumia 610 on the low end and Nokia Lumia 900 on the high end will indeed get the Windows Phone 8 update.

The news has been passed on by João Luis, who claims an extremely reliable insider source he trusts “200%”

Of course this rumour is not isolated, with Nokia India hinting strongly about an update and recent claims on a Chinese Windows phone forum that a Nokia Lumia 800 is already being tested with Windows Phone 8.

Nokia of course has the most to lose with the rumours that there will not be any Windows phone 8 upgrade for current Nokia Lumia owners, and I suspect there will soon be a strategic video “leak” from inside Nokia which will erase all doubt.

Thanks Antonio for the tip.

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Windows Phone 8 to integrate Rich Communication Suite services

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We have read earlier that Windows Phone 8 offer carrier more customization.  Now the Verge reports one of the ways would actually be quite welcome.

According to their sources Windows Phone 8 will support RCS-e (Rich Communication Suite-enhanced), which would allow carriers to move beyond SMS to other value-added data services such as VOIP, file transfer messaging and would present itself as a native service to the user, much like SMS does at present.

The technology would for example allow VOIP phone calls to be made directly from the dialler exactly as normal circuit-switched phone calls are made currently.

Read more about the technology at GSMA here.

Via the Verge.com

Thanks Anon for the tip.

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Microsoft to discuss Windows Phone 8 Customization & Differentiation opportunities with OEMs

Netbooknews reports that Microsoft will soon have a meeting with Windows Phone OEMs and carrier partners, where Windows Phone 8 will be presented to them.

One of the topics of the meeting, which will be held in Reading in UK, will be customization of the OS, with the particular topic being called “Customization & Differentiation opportunities”.

Customization of the Windows Phone 7 OS has been a sore point with some OEMs and carriers, with Microsoft resisting it, but some carriers blaming this for poor sales.

Given the lacklustre performance of Windows Phone 7 so far in the market, it is quite possible Microsoft is now prepared to make many concessions they refused to before. On the other hand the leaks we have seen so far suggest only that OEMs will be able to skin the camera app mode deeply.

The full agenda, according to Netbooknews, is below:

  • Apollo Review
  • Windows Phone Schedules and release plans/processes
  • Customization & Differentiation opportunities
  • New Windows Phone 8 application development capabilities
  • What’s new feature review of Apollo
  • Connectivity and APN management
  • Better together with Windows 8

Hopefully we will see some leaks from the summit which will give us better clarity into Microsoft’s 2013 Mobile OS.

How would our readers feel about HTC Sense and TouchWiz for Windows Phone? Let us know below.

Thanks Michael for the tip.

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Nokia Design patent may be revealing a future Windows Phone handset

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LiveSide.net have uncovered another Nokia Design patent, D650,350 filed back in May 26, 2011, which bears a striking resemblance to one of the concept designs released by Nokia when they announced their partnership with Microsoft in February 2011.

The main difference seems to be that the capacitive keys in the render are now physical keys in the patent, but otherwise all the other buttons, design features and even camera and flash positions line up exactly, as can be seen in the full pictures below after the break:

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Nokia Lumia 900 out of stock, but not for the reason you think

We have been receiving reports that the Nokia Lumia 900 is no longer available at stores. If this was due to the handset selling out that would of course be good news, but reader Naren has clued us into the real reason.

Apparently Nokia and AT&T are pulling the Lumia 900 of stock shelves and returning it to Nokia to be flashed with the new, LTE-bug free firmware. 

This process will apparently take 3-5 days, meaning the phones will only get in stock early next week.

The phone is still available online, where of course either shipment can be delayed until fixed handsets are available, or they can make sure only handsets free of the problem are being sent out.

Hopefully Nokia can keep the turn around time as short as possible and get the handset back on the shelves before the launch buzz fades.

Thanks Naren and Abishek for the tip.

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Samsung expecting to deliver Windows Phone 8 handsets in October 2012

Samsung Taiwan has told reporters that they will be skipping introducing Mango devices into Taiwan, but will be delivering Windows Phone 8 handsets in October.

They noted that Mango was not really suitable for high end break through devices, and that they were ready to deliver Windows Phone 8 handsets, which were more suitable, in the second half of the year, pending availability of the software from Microsoft.

In February Matt Brum, head of product management at Samsung, was on record as saying the company was  looking forward to delivering Windows Phone 8 handsets at the end of the year.

"We’re very much still focusing on Windows, and still have products in that area. We’re committed to delivering their products going forward,” he said.

"There will be more products, and the key thing for us is making sure we hit the right price points and segments for our customers.

"[Windows Phone 8] is coming at the end of the year, and will increase the capability of the platform, and Samsung is looking to optimise its devices on that.”

Recent rumours has suggested besides a Tango handset Samsung was looking to deliver 2 Windows Phone 8 handsets at the end of the year.

In recent days it has become clear that Samsung is not just the biggest smartphone vendor in the world, having overtaken Apple recently, but also the biggest mobile phone vendor period, having shipped around 92 million phones, overtaking Nokia, who only managed 83 million.

Ironically Nokia’s work at increasing consumer acceptance for Windows Phone may benefit Microsoft’s relationship with Samsung, given that the company, like many other OEMs, are waiting for evidence of consumer demand before seriously committing to the market.

Via ePrice.com.tw and Unwiredview.com

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