Your Windows Phone 7 questioned answered

developer handset A few weeks ago we requested question which MobilityDigest directed to Brandon Watson, Microsoft’s Director of Development Experience. He has come back with a list of 18 “answers” which unfortunately shed little light on Microsoft’s plans, and mostly just toes the line of Microsoft’s other PR.

For those interested, read the answers below.

1. In the photographs of WP7 running on phones with a slide out keyboard the home UI never rotated into landscape mode. Will this be addressed by launch? Is there any requirement for developers to make input heavy apps work in landscape mode or is this something that market demands will be looked to?

We would prefer not to comment on pre-release photos and forthcoming features

2. One of the most prominent features of WP7 are the panoramic controls yet MS hasn’t provided tools to developers and instead we’re seeing developers create the controls and share them with other developers. The problem with this is the same as WM6.5 and the fragmented experience this leads to. MS needs to take the lead and ensure a seamless experience across all applications. This is a large omission since it’s the look and feel of WP7. When will MS address this?

We love to hear from our developers, and one of the things which came up time and time again was a desire to have official panorama and pivot controls from Microsoft. We announced at TechEd in New Orleans that we would be releasing these controls later in the summer with the final release of the Windows Phone Developer Tools.

3. The lack of native code has been addressed by stating that the best experience is needed and that requires some level of control. It’s obvious that at some point you’ll have to let developers use native code. Currently WP7 is going to be missing apps like Swype and Skyfire which, as an HD2 user, I’m sure you can appreciate how much they add to the end user experience. We all understand preserving the end user experience, and I think it’s pretty clear to everyone involved that the demand is there for native code and that it’s inevitable that MS permit it. Why not treat it the same way you treat Xbox Live services and limit it to top tier developers and do whatever additional checks you need to? The omission is going to limit too many apps.

I actually don’t agree that a managed code development platform limits app development. There is tremendous upside to using common tools and platforms that are consistent across a range of popular product environments. The key is a design principle that says we’ll deliver a consistently great end user experience, not how we handle native access. That said, today the best way to be confident that applications are behaving in a way that results in a great experience across the entire phone is to limit native access. Furthermore, regardless of whether or not an application has native access we don’t allow changes to the soft input panel, so things like Swype still wouldn’t work as currently architected.

4. In a similar vein, some multitasking is inevitable or else apps like Skype and Pandora would be crippled. Apple already learned their lesson and it’s inevitable for WP7 to have some multitasking. Same question – why the delay? Why not open multitasking to a select set of developers under controlled conditions? The longer MS delays in granting this, the more the omission will be prominent and used as a reason that WP7 is behind the other OSes.

Our phone platform allows users to multitask while also optimizing for phone performance. This is why the user mode is restricted to one process at a time. There are mobile platforms that allow anything to run in the background, but they are also dealing with mounting customer dissatisfaction with phone performance – our intent is enable customers to engage is multiple tasks simultaneously on the phone, while avoiding the dissatisfaction pitfalls the come when you compromise performance.

5. We’ve yet to see a YouTube application. How will YouTube be treated? If there’s a link in an email or website, what action will the device take? Similarly, we know that Flash will be a part of WP7 but its availability at launch has been questioned. Will it be active at launch and is this the YouTube solution?

We continue to work with our partners and want to provide for the best user experience. YouTube is obviously a very important partner. Flash will not be available at launch, although we will work to bring Flash technology to future versions of Windows Phones.

6. For years Windows Mobile has had front facing cameras and upon shipment to the US the camera was always neutered. Thanks to the EVO and iPhone 4 those days are over. Is MS going to provide any software to take advantage of the availability of front facing cameras? Along the same lines, Live Messenger permits video calling (over data). Will Messenger with camera support exist at launch?

We certainly get that pictures and photos are critical to delivering a great customer experience, but we have nothing new to share at this time. The consumer features of the phone will be discussed in the coming months. For now, we are actively engaging developers about the features which are important to them, to ensure that we have great apps available at launch.

7. What can you tell us about support for Macs? Will there be a Zune Mac application or will Mark/Space be utilized?

No plans to announce at this time.

8. Microsoft has had ebook readers for Windows Mobile for some time. Will there be an ebook reader present at launch on WP7? Will Marketplace have ebooks for sale?

There are some great ebook applications in the Windows Phone Marketplace and we are working with those companies to provide great ebook experiences on Windows Phone 7.

9. How does email treat html with embedded images? On Windows Mobile the user needs to take the extra step of downloading internet pictures. On a PC you can add trusted senders so that they automatically download. On the iPhone it automatically downloads html internet images. How will WP7 treat this? Any screen shots available?

Here again, we’re working to balance customer experience and ease of use with performance, but don’t have anything specific to share at this time.

10. Some developers have noted that many of their app ideas are dropped because they are impossible to implement on WP7 for one reason or another. Apps should either add the fun factor (games) to the phone, or the utility or phone capabilities extensions factor (until MS offers the functionality built-in in a new release). Seems like, with such lockdown and limitations, only games would make sense to build on WP7. Can you name a few app categories, beyond games, that can be built on WP7 and which cannot be built on WM6.5.x or otherwise explain the enhancements that are brought to WP7 beyond WM6.5?

We are working with many software companies looking to build applications across a range of categories like games, entertainment, productivity, video, travel, social, communications, lifestyle and business. The only major restriction on apps is the inability to use native code, but C# has long been used by millions of developers to build an almost infinite variety of apps. There are many amazing applications which can be built for Windows Phone 7. The features and functionality enabled by Windows Phone 7 open the door for far more developers than had been the case with Windows Mobile 6.x.

11. Will WP7 sync Outlook tasks? If so, I presume a task tile would exist. Any screenshots available?

We have a set of consumer features which haven’t been publicly discussed, stay tuned.

12. How do you think Windows Phone 7 v1.0 matches up with iPhone 4.0 and Android 2.2? Google has admitted that Android was really a beta when it was released. Now that both rivals have updated and launched before Windows Phone 7 v1.0, where do you see Windows Phone 7.0 in the market, feature wise and advertising wise?

Windows Phone 7 really is a different kind of phone, from the smart new design to the integrated experiences in hubs. We didn’t set out to replicate what other are doing on a feature-by-feature basis, or even provide a similar customer experience. The ability to integrate your data with the phone creates a distinctly different experience than what you get with jumping in and out of discrete apps. Windows Phone 7 will certainly be a first step in a new direction, but we have no intention of releasing beta quality code into the market and calling it “done.”

13. The new hardware buzzword is ‘gyroscope’. To date we haven’t heard of any requirement of a gyroscope in WP7 but obviously if that’s left out at initial launch then it’s going to lead to the exact fragmentation between phones that MS is trying to avoid with WP7. What can you tell us about this?

There is no gyroscope.

14. Will front facing cameras be required on WP7 devices? Will you provide developer tools for them?

There is no specific requirement for front facing cameras.

15. To date we know of one CPU that’s been approved for WP7 – Qualcomm’s Snapdragon. MS has a history of working with Tegra and there are other CPUs being used in smartphones that appear to have the specs that WP7 requires. What CPU’s have been approved to date?

We have not published the specific hardware requirements, but I would note that we’re working with OEM and MO partners to provide customers and developers with a consistent hardware experience across all devices is central to the Windows Phone 7 Series strategy. There is a single Windows Phone 7 Series hardware specification. Developers can count on the fact that all Windows Phone 7 Series hardware will include; a powerful processor, 256 MB of RAM with a minimum of 4 GB Flash, 802.11 b/g wireless), 4 point, true multi-touch capacitive only screen and 5 sensors (A-GPS, accelerometer, compass, proximity and light). Within this specification there are two screen options; with WVGA at launch and HVGA coming shortly thereafter. There will be only two options. These specifications and requirements are reflected in the tools and guidance we are providing at MIX and will continue to update throughout the months ahead.

16. Micro USB has become standard but it does not appear to be a requirement of WP7. Is it? This is another possible fragmentation issue as USB host services, for example, would require it.

See above.

17. The headlines are filled with iPhone4 and Android 2.2. There’s still not a lot of talk about Windows Phone 7 aside from the blogospheres. There’s obviously a soft deadline to get some attention before June 24 when a few million people lock in contracts for 2 years on a new iPhone. This obviously ties into release dates as well. October has been repeated on numerous occasions. This plays into people’s decisions to buy a phone or wait. What is MS doing about mindshare and advertising? What can you tell us about release dates and availability?

The release date has always been “holiday 2010”and you can expect to see Microsoft working hard to promote Windows Phone 7 as we get closer to availability. We feel we’ve done a fair job of giving people an early look at Windows Phone 7 so that people who are already interested in something different can start to plan ahead a bit.

18. If a user on an Xbox live game on WP7 pauses a game, can they resume the game using their Xbox assuming the developer used the same source code?

To date we’ve shared that managed developers can bring Xbox LIVE features to a mobile phone. The Windows Phone 7 games hub will provide access to a managed portfolio of Xbox LIVE and non-Xbox LIVE games. It also lets users:

· Collect Achievements and build their Gamerscore

· View Xbox LIVE Leaderboards

· See their Xbox LIVE Avatar

· Access Spotlight feeds

· Add Xbox LIVE friends to their friends list while out on the go

· Turn-based (asynchronous) multiplayer gaming

Clearly we are giving developers quite the big of freedom with the platform and what they can do with it. It will be pretty exciting to see some of the scenarios they create, including the one we showed at MIX where a game was paused on the console and picked up and resumed on the device.

Anyone find anything new, surprising or interesting in the above? Let us know below.

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  • chmun77

    I see quite a number of unanswered questions and negative answers…. Oh well, cannot expect much from a 1st version of WP7…

    • GAM3R

      You can see Brandon Watson is political incorrectness & socialist..

  • Baz

    Are "panoramic controls" another way of saying swipe…swipe…swipe…swipe?, WP7 being panoramic is rubbish, panoramic means being able to see a wide view as is, not everything running off the side of the screen and having to swipe 10 times to see whats hidden….it would be like having a widescreen TV that is 2" wide and you have to swipe left and right to see the whole picture.

    • Jason

      A few points.

      - Think of the panorama as a collection of categories. You'll have one uber category (the hub name) which is then broken down into a couple sub categories. In the sub categories you can scroll up and down. It seems that most things are limited to three or four categories.
      - The panorama is circular. So if you stick to the convention of just using three subcategories then you will only have to swipe horizontally once to find your information.
      - The focus is the content. Why would the user feel burdened to swipe horizontally several times to see the background? All the content is organizted first by a broad category(hub) then further broken down into sub categories using the panoramic controls. The idea is that you'll only have to go to one place to find all your information. The UI is based on aggregating content.

      • Baz

        You spelt it out really well there, hubs, categories, sub categories, steps, steps and more steps.
        Anybody who thinks about it past the "cool" transitions and love of swiping would feel burdened because it's added input to achieve the same thing as what you can do now in a third of the amount of steps.
        When I see WP7 open a word doc out of a list of 20 in two inputs like I can do now with WM from the front end, then I might actually wonder if it's going somewhere other than effects, fluff and less functionality.

        To me, panoramic means " An unbroken view of an entire surrounding area" as stated by the dictionary, there are broader definitions though admittedly , with WP7, definitely.

  • GAM3R

    This is not very impression & lack of promises

    So, I amn't going to buy Brandon Watson's crappy words. Because he just talk, talk, talkative without his Vision ACTS TOGETHER.. Wpy can't catch Iphone & android.

    the Concept of the Biblical stories of Sodom and Gomorrah; Jericho, they were doomed –

    Sodom & Gomorrah are KIN One & Two.. Jericho is WP7.

    • Gadgetebz

      I am still reserving judgement but very very poor answers I must say…

      It is not impossible for WP7 to catch the IPHONE and ANDROID but these guys at Microsoft need to wise up and be more open…I really hope they learn from the KIN shambles… If I commit to WP7 on an 18 month contract I want to know whats coming in the way of updates…

      I thought Brandon Watsons attitude did not come accross well at all in the interview you have to ask why he bothered..

      • dropqube

        I'm lucky to live in a country where I can select my handset free of any provider and then choose a provider myself, without being bound to a contract.
        Poor Americans :D

      • Jason

        It just seems like they won't be open to talking too much about it until the initial version is completed. I'd prefer them to be tight lipped now and not promise what they won't be able to deliver at launch.

  • T-WILL

    all i have to say is a front-facing camera is going to be on wp7 or sales will be down at lunch.. one more other issue… no swype is really kind of funny.. I've watched videos were the people who use the phone everyday at microsoft can barely use the on screen keyboard.. but one thing i can say.. im not to worried about things like swype because there will be a way to get it on there (xda developers)… But hardware stuff has to be there.. Front-facing camera, hdmi-out 5 row keyboard like the touch pro 2… 3.8 inch screen or better…. that will push windows phone 7 out of the gate real fast… :)

  • Jake

    Full of suck, arrogance, misguided priorities and misunderstanding of the importance of LISTENING to developers. It isn't a phone! Windows Mobile stoped being a phone after Wi-Fi was included back in 2002. Just because the shitty Qualcomm platform slows the phone down when the application processor gets busy isn't a reason to kill the developer and user experience. Use a seperate AP and radio processor. IT IS NOT HARD! Go Marvell, go TI, do anything other than pander to a monopolistic, anti competitive dinosaur like Qualcomm. Shit, wait, that could be applied to another monopolistic, anti competitive dinosaur, Microsoft!

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/krekiere krekiere

    Wait … a mandatory 4 point touchscreen on every phone ? Games and gestures are going to be fun and finally have flexible controls.
    I however hope that MS is going to listen a bit more to developers questions.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Northerngeek Northerngeek

      I agree 4 point multitouch was an feature I was very happy to hear when it was announced. I like to imagine a note-app like Evernote or OneNote where I can pinch together four digits to scrunch up and trash a note. Obviously rhythm games and others would be more interesting too, I would love a sling shot game where two fingers can be the post between which a rubber band appears whilst the middle digit pulls it back!

  • Argh

    The mandatory 4 point multi-touch will be better than some of the popular HTC Android devices (Nexus, Desire, etc.) but the rest just sounds a bit rubbish in comparison to the latest devices.

    > We didn’t set out to replicate what other are doing on a feature-by-feature basis

    Hahaha! Of course you didn't, it's just a coincidence that you pretty much cloned the iPhone OS 3 feature-set!

    • Jason

      The OS looks and opperates completely different.

    • David

      argh is stuck on stupid

  • nuke1

    Sounds shite. Does this arrogant a-hole think this sort of attitude will sit well with a site full of anxious WP fans?

    What MS seems to have done, is looked at the latest, latest technologies back in January (e.g. digi compass) and thought, 'we're gonna have all of this', but what a corporate giant as big as them forgot is that the iPhone 4 and Android handsets would have even more by June (e.g. gyroscope) – and what'll Android have by 'holiday 2010'? I hate to think.

    Or maybe I shouldn't be too nice with MS.

    • bkwmiata

      A couple of years ago I was watching the Military channel and I veiwed a story on the M1A-1 Abrams tank. I was shocked to find out that the Abrams was in development for some extraordinarily long amout of time. The reason for that was because every time some new technology became available they wanted it included. Since technology is always evolving and moving forward you "must" pick a starting point otherwise you'll never get a product to market. MS had to start somewhere and you can't pick technology that isn't currently available. All they have done is pick a starting point. The phones the OEM produce aren't limited to just those features, they can add forward facing cameras and 16 or 32GB of Flash storage. MS just picked the lowest common denominator for each phone so that OEMs are not able to flood the market with Junk.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Northerngeek Northerngeek

      Why is a gyroscope so important? Would it really matter if it wasn't there until "WP8"? I never heard anybody clamouring for one before Apple got them.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/martinschmidler martinschmidler

    Totally lame interview, nothing new at all. I really hope they keep their promise of updating and adding features quickly. I guess waiting 1-3 months after launch is the best thing.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Northerngeek Northerngeek

      Yeah it was disappointing but what could you expect? Microsoft isn't going to announce new features for consumers and such without a large event, they need coverage, and all of it that they can get.

      I didn't expect much but I got what I was after: the consumer announcements are coming, which to me means there'll be at least on more major event before launch, the sort of thing I enjoy.

  • Cahutte Hirsute

    I see too many negative answers here.

    It seems to me that man must me crazy to buy WP7 at launch.

    What I predict is that as soon as WP7 is released the tech press will list all the missing features : no Opera, no Flash, no multitask, no native code, no gyroscope, no You Tube, no copy & paste, etc, etc, etc…. And I believe a lot of people will laugh about MS..

    I'm using WM for years and am trying to stay fidel and fair, but this time I feel it will be a huge huge failure. And all I already know it that I will not buy WP7 when released.

    • Jason

      They already said flash and copy&paste are coming, just not at the initial launch. Heck, Android just got Flash and it will only be available to new phones.

      I think that using this pseudo-multitask is a better option for most programs right now. It'll help a lot with battery life. First party programs will be able to do true multitasking. So, you'll have your phone, music, and internet able to function in the background. The only programs that'll really need it are stuff like internet radio which I believe are things planned for the future.

    • GAM3R

      Yes I dont see Watson's interview about Instant messaging client support. Many deaf people including me reliable the Instant messaging for communication, thats VERY, VERY important!

      thats mean no Im client feature for Wp7 on launch, since (2009) Zune HD and (2010) KIN had lack of IM client support. I feel NONE doubt Wp7 will be GUARANTEE FAIL! then dont invest in window 7 phone when hit holiday 2010 launch, please..

  • Mic

    I think the problem of managed app is very slow to start, that means sub-standard product are produced in terms of speed. At the time different OS are compared side by side, it is inevitable to promote WP7 is slow. If the appl are very complex, you probably need to wait very long that would deter you to really use it

    • http://www.avianwaves.com Parrotlover77

      Managed code can be super fast in most cases. That's not the issue. The issue is that there are just some thing that you need lower level access for. This is working well for Android. Need to develop some sort of real time video codec? Native is your answer. Need to develop a database driver? Native. Need to develop a fart app? Managed, all the way baby!

      • //cs

        Dalvik only got a JITer with Android 2.2 – without JITing managed codes tends to be slow. The .NET Compact Framework had a JITer from day 1. The JITer in 3.7 (the version running on WP7) has some remarkable improvements, btw.

        There are realtime video and audio codecs (Ogg Theora and Vorbis) written in Java and C# that are fast.

        Most database drivers (for Java and .Net) I am aware of are fully managed these days.

        There are even fully managed DBMS out there (for both Java and .Net). All of them fast.

    • //cs

      With WP7 the .Net runtime will be preloaded during boot and stays in memory so application start will be fast.

  • iPhone4

    Duh….. Seems like MS is always living in a fantasy…. All the big ho-has but in the end, none of the questions is answered. MS is just trying to "smoke" its way through.

    I will rather take a antenna "fault" iPhone than a WP7 which has even more restriction than Apple.

  • GAM3R

    You wondering why Zune HD, KIN and Wp7 always are easy dysfunctional, failure, and catastrophe like Brandon Watson's unethical answers; and misquotes as above?

    I STRONGLY encourage you guys read this: http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2010/07/kin-fusing-k… before jump me with your attitude.

    • NuShrike

      Eye-opening to say the least coming from the insiders. However, the events are not surprising as a vet of corporate in-fighting and MBA/political mismanagement. Is the Vista team really now in charge of Wimpy7s? OMG!

      You can tell from the MS's guy's answers that he doesn't want to be on the hook for anything said, meaning they have no concrete solutions being polished in the back except turds. He has nothing to be proud of, and can only hammer the company line. That speaks in spades.

  • http://twitter.com/segadc @segadc

    If it weren't for XBOX Live and Zune intergration I might not be as patient enough for WP7 and would go with Android.

    This time we will get quicker updates since it won't go through the carrier right?

    • http://www.avianwaves.com Parrotlover77

      Those are the only two things that are looking *really great* about the OS. The rest looks average or worse compared to the competitors. I'm just not sure that tight XBOX integratoin is enough to sell the device (even though I do think WP7 as a gaming platform looks interesting, even without hardware button controls). Zune? I mean it's good — no doubt. But, again, media players are a bit of a dime a dozen… Yea, I'm coming off a bit of a concern troll here, but make no doubt, I have no interest either way if WP7 sells or not. I'm WM6.5 until my contract runs out, then I'm going to whatever is most open and most powerful. Whether it's Android 3.0 or WP8 or Symbian. iphone is out of the question because Objective-C gives me a headache.

      • NuShrike

        The question is which Android hardware is as good and mature as the HD2? Definitely not Samsung as they just literally drop products on release. HTC? I hate them for their Qualcomm love which means NO SDKs for anything, and tight old-guard protection of their hardware.

        Nokia/MeeGo seems to be the only one that is truly open with SDKs galore from Imagination, as well as public open-source SDK through Qt, and mature hardware. Problem is they're so unproven while Android is growing non-stop, as unpolished as Android is.

  • http://www.avianwaves.com Parrotlover77

    "I actually don’t agree that a managed code development platform limits app development."

    If that were true, then MS wouldn't be developing the new Office Mobile for WP7 in native code. So much for dogfooding.

    "There are mobile platforms that allow anything to run in the background, but they are also dealing with mounting customer dissatisfaction with phone performance…"

    Only on old hardware. The HD2 and Incredible (1GHz processors and decent grfx chipsets) rock hard, even under heavy multitasking. The pause-and-switch task switching model works fine for older hardware, but the minimum WP7 specs don't make sense to not allow true mutltitasking.

    Here's a novel thought: how about letting the user decide? Pause-and-switch is default, but you can "run in background" if the user wants. ZOMG that's crazy talk! Letting the user decide?! Nonsense!

    • Joe

      Most of the users don't know shit. Most iphone users don't even read the feature lists of the os updates. Some even don't know or care about multitasking.

      Many of the potential wp7 buyers wouldn't even know how to kill an application. People are computing-illiterate and MS knows that.

      Off-topic, i may buy an samsung galaxy s and wp7 is making me doubt. I want a phone that will have updates pushed by competent developers.

      • http://www.avianwaves.com Parrotlover77

        Desktop Windows is used by computer illiterates too. Yet, somehow they are able to get things done on it. What's wrong with including power features, even if the default configuration is for the lowest denominator of users?

        • joe

          Including options,of course,would be ideal. But default configuration should aim to conserve battery life. And that's the difference between desktops and phones.

          Desktop windows is plagued by people who don't even know how to install an application or how to maintain a pc. Ever heard of bot-nets?

    • //cs

      WPF/Silverlight and XNA on .NET are the native environments of WP7. There is no real advantage developing apps with C++ and compiling it to ARM machine code.

      For one there is no UI library you could use (the only option is using Silverlight via COM which is horrible or creating your own UI library using DirectX which would take years to finish).

      And then you're bound to the CPU instruction set your code is compiled for (Snapdragon). Your app won't run on other archictures (Atom for example) at all or perform poorly.

      Office Mobile is part of the OS that needs to be ported to new architectures anyway. They have teams that can create the necessary C++ compilers.

      The problem with multitasking not the performance but power consumption. Badly written (i.e. the average) apps can consume to much power so it's better to pause background apps.

      • http://www.avianwaves.com Parrotlover77

        "WPF/Silverlight and XNA on .NET are the native environments of WP7. There is no real advantage developing apps with C++ and compiling it to ARM machine code…"

        lolwut? Are you for serious? You apparently don't develop… Dude, I love managed code. I spend about 99% of my coding time in it. But there are some things you just can't (or, rather, shouldn't) do in managed code. For example, writing a codec in managed code will result in an extremely slow codec. Recompiling existing C++ code is far more efficient in hta tscenario. Oh, and codecs don't have user interfaces, so there's no problem in having no native access to the UI layer. Tha'ts just one example.

        "Office Mobile is part of the OS that needs to be ported to new architectures anyway. They have teams that can create the necessary C++ compilers."

        Nobody else in all the tubes of the internets has the resources necessary, except MS. Awesome argument.

        • //cs

          Managed codecs can be fast as well.

          A codec is not an application. An application needs UI.

          The point is:
          Why work 2+ years on a UI library to replicate the look and feel of WP7 to create a simple mobile app?

    • NuShrike

      It is humorous the slagged on cooperative-multitasking of OS1-OS9 that almost choked Apple to death is now the savior technique for mobile phones.

      The only thing WindowsMobile lacked to control out-of-control multi-tasking is process priority-levels. The kind that says the process (not the thread) should run at lower-priority so that an out-of-control process never takes over, and can be easily killed. Right now, every process runs at the same priority.

      The reason Android wins is because it kept all of this mature lessons by using the Linux kernel, instead of some stripped down cast-off.

      But the other thing that's killing me on Windows Mobile is the 32MB of process memory. No matter how much the HD2 has, I can't use any of it! I've build the Qt lib which does amazing things on Mac and Windows, but the GUI library is 12MB. That's means as soon as you have a KDE like app interface running, your app only has < 5MB to use after some simple full-screen OpenGL off-screen buffers.

      This is why even Opera 10 Mobile kills the Camera app sometimes because the dlls all map into the same ram, just like Windows 98! Only hope is that Ubuntu/Android port gets mature …

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/djguapo djguapo

    My question wasn't answered :-(

  • diablo

    I like the Microsoft eBook Reader, and I love the website I go to to purchase my eBooks (booksonboard.com). So far, I've had a great eBook experience with the Microsoft Reader. No complaints here.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/chinch chinch

    the comments in this thread represent a new low for WMP.

    Did every Cretan & hater from xxmobiles troll over here now?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/__Diego__ Diego!

    Mine either :(

    But this guy is really rude! How come someone as nasty as him is answering questions?

    He's a jerk, as everybody mentioned before me, they should make eager fans happy, by answering politely and this is not the way they did it…

  • mattyjim

    I'm an ASP.NET developer at the moment, and although I've never written anything for Windows Mobile before I was hoping to expand my knowledge of .NET by taking a look at building a few apps for Windows Phone 7 when it's finally made available.

    I can understand why MS would want to tightly regulate their public market, but am I correct in the notion that I wouldn't 'officially' be allowed to write programs that I could simply install on my own Win7 handset?

    If so, this completely sucks :-(

    • Surur

      If you register as a developer ($100 per year) you will be able to side-load apps (not sure of just your own or anyone’s)

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